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(03-20-2025, 03:06 AM)Loki Wrote: @nxe we will only talk about the deal between you two in this scam report.
I appreciate the detailed description, and in light of the new information, other decisions will be executed once we resolve the issue between you two.
As I understand, you have the data, and you're verifying its legitimacy.
(03-19-2025, 12:54 PM)nxe Wrote: It is also essential to mention that I never deleted the chat history between me and the user. It must’ve been him.
But at the same time, you said:
(03-19-2025, 09:00 PM)nxe Wrote: 3. After unblocking the filthy kyrgyzstani retard
You did not delete the chat history with them, but you blocked them in the middle of a deal?
It is essential to clarify there was no deal in place whatsoever, I demanded to use escrow, they said we can use escrow but after a few minutes of me not responding, they messages that they will “speed up the process” and sent the files to me directly, now I specified I want to use escrow, but at least I had the chance of seeing what the scammer has shared with me. It is also essential when he initially messaged, he was asking “what country do you need”, indicating that he’d find the databases through undisclosed public sources or fabricate the databases all along. Also, LOKI THEY SENT ME 3 CSV FILES, NOT DOCUMENTS, they may have gotten in contact with me through the thread, seeing I’m interested in buying governmental data and decided I would be a nice target. PS: I can share the 3 CSV files in PMs if it is of any help, I am still verifying the legitimacy and looking for the origin as they never told me where this has been taken from.
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(03-20-2025, 06:52 AM)nxe Wrote: (03-20-2025, 03:06 AM)Loki Wrote: @nxe we will only talk about the deal between you two in this scam report.
I appreciate the detailed description, and in light of the new information, other decisions will be executed once we resolve the issue between you two.
As I understand, you have the data, and you're verifying its legitimacy.
(03-19-2025, 12:54 PM)nxe Wrote: It is also essential to mention that I never deleted the chat history between me and the user. It must’ve been him.
But at the same time, you said:
(03-19-2025, 09:00 PM)nxe Wrote: 3. After unblocking the filthy kyrgyzstani retard
You did not delete the chat history with them, but you blocked them in the middle of a deal?
It is essential to clarify there was no deal in place whatsoever, I demanded to use escrow, they said we can use escrow but after a few minutes of me not responding, they messages that they will “speed up the process” and sent the files to me directly, now I specified I want to use escrow, but at least I had the chance of seeing what the scammer has shared with me. It is also essential when he initially messaged, he was asking “what country do you need”, indicating that he’d find the databases through undisclosed public sources or fabricate the databases all along. Also, LOKI THEY SENT ME 3 CSV FILES, NOT DOCUMENTS, they may have gotten in contact with me through the thread, seeing I’m interested in buying governmental data and decided I would be a nice target. PS: I can share the 3 CSV files in PMs if it is of any help, I am still verifying the legitimacy and looking for the origin as they never told me where this has been taken from. provide the administration with the data, and the very fact that you check the database without paying money already means that you are a fraudster, you deleted the chat and thought you snatched everything for free, and now that I caught you, you are looking for a way out of punishment in different ways and not paying money
And regarding the data, such data is taken only directly through the Ministry of Defense.
Dear administration, he says that there was no deal.
https://ibb.co/0LZSy3w
is there a deal going on in this screenshot or? is this just a joke
in the screenshot you can see that he is writing about checking and he liked my message about waiting for money, after which he deleted the chat
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Hahahah, you cannot be serious. https://ibb.co/27mPdNLd — I never deleted the telegram history. I asked you to use escrow and you sent me the files like an idiot, and then you cleared our history for whatever reason.
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@ nxe dont beat around the bush. I have pointed out discrepancies in my previous post, you did not answer them.
>You created a thread for buying docs
> You said you wanted to buy docs https://ibb.co/27mPdNLd even after you got banned for the same reason, as mentioned in my previous post
> The seller (even though you did not ask) sent you the docs. In other words, the seller showed trust.
> Since then, you have been checking the data sent by the seller.
> You blocked the seller on telegram.
My problems:
1. You decided to buy confidential docs AFTER you got unbanned (after you promised that you will stay away from docs sales/purchases)
2. You blocked the seller, but you claimed that you did not delete the chat. I dont see the difference, because as a buyer if you take the data and block them, its not a good look on you.
@ kotokbaw you're next. Be patient. I will come to you.
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(03-21-2025, 07:15 AM)Loki Wrote: @nxe dont beat around the bush. I have pointed out discrepancies in my previous post, you did not answer them.
>You created a thread for buying docs
> You said you wanted to buy docs https://ibb.co/27mPdNLd even after you got banned for the same reason, as mentioned in my previous post
> The seller (even though you did not ask) sent you the docs. In other words, the seller showed trust.
> Since then, you have been checking the data sent by the seller.
> You blocked the seller on telegram.
My problems:
1. You decided to buy confidential docs AFTER you got unbanned (after you promised that you will stay away from docs sales/purchases)
2. You blocked the seller, but you claimed that you did not delete the chat. I dont see the difference, because as a buyer if you take the data and block them, its not a good look on you.
@kotokbaw you're next. Be patient. I will come to you.
So you classify CSV databases as “classified documents”? I did not attempt to purchase classified documents but governmental agencies’ internal databases, there is a big difference. I am sorry for the confusion.
I understand the position I have been placed in by the circumstances is very difficult to defend, that this isn’t a good look, but you must understand that I was not a buyer at the moment, rather a party of interest, I asked if we could use escrow and got the files in my DMs straight away, I did express my interest but we never settled on what cryptocurrency the payment will be in, I was never told where these databases originated from, nothing, all I got was 3 CSV files and he demanded me to pay 12k…
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the prices were indicated and he expressed a desire to purchase, as can be seen in the screenshot. https://ibb.co/27mPdNLd
I WANT TO BUY
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(03-21-2025, 07:15 AM)Loki Wrote: @nxe dont beat around the bush. I have pointed out discrepancies in my previous post, you did not answer them.
>You created a thread for buying docs
> You said you wanted to buy docs https://ibb.co/27mPdNLd even after you got banned for the same reason, as mentioned in my previous post
> The seller (even though you did not ask) sent you the docs. In other words, the seller showed trust.
> Since then, you have been checking the data sent by the seller.
> You blocked the seller on telegram.
My problems:
1. You decided to buy confidential docs AFTER you got unbanned (after you promised that you will stay away from docs sales/purchases)
2. You blocked the seller, but you claimed that you did not delete the chat. I dont see the difference, because as a buyer if you take the data and block them, its not a good look on you.
@kotokbaw you're next. Be patient. I will come to you. he refuses to pay, maybe do something with him, he easily enters the forum and all his topics work, they write to him who knows who else he will deceive, I ask you to freeze his account until the situation is clarified
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(03-21-2025, 06:02 PM)zero_one666 Wrote: I know NXE from joint projects. A man of extreme decency and responsiveness. And not every user is given the status of a BUSINESSMAN by the forum administration. Good luck with your business. yes the person is very decent, took the database and promised to pay, in the end he deleted the chat in telegram and refuses to pay NICE
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1. I never said classified documents. I am talking about confidential documents(by that I mean the content, not the tag assigned to the documents). As you said, you were purchasing "governmental agencies’ internal databases" that fall under the same category, that is, unverifiable using public sources. If we cannot establish the authenticity of something, we cannot allow the sales or purchase of those items. This is my second time explaining this.
2. After you were unbanned after you attempted to buy documents, you told the seller that reached out to you seeing your post on BF(after you got banned btw), that you want to buy the documents the seller has to offer.
(03-21-2025, 10:46 AM)nxe Wrote: you must understand that I was not a buyer at the moment, rather a party of interest,
So the statement above does not hold up. You were attempting to buy documents after being banned for attempting to buy documents. So its clear that you do not care about the forum rules.
@ kotokbaw has been banned for attempted scamming because of the telegram evidence provided by you. That does not mean that I am not expecting answers from you.
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I didn’t say you referred to classified documents but that you classify CSV databases are confidential documents.
No, I’m sorry for the confusion, they specified “database”, then they started giving me “samples” in plaintext (CTRL+C;CTRL+P). I told them to send a screenshot instead and asked what filetype is the database. They said CSV. Also, I’m pretty sure governmental data has been verified on here in the past, hasn’t it?
Despite they may have gotten in touch with me through the now-deleted thread, it doesn’t mean they were offering me documents.
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